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Bouldinw
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| 11/28/2007 5:13 PM |
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Rob Green is the Palmetto Council's Scout Executive. That means he is the top paid professional and is in charge of the other professional staff and office operations (Spartanburg). He reports the the Council President, Mr.Gary Williams, who is a volunteer and head of the Palmetto Council Executive Board. The Executive Board is comprised of all volunteers from around the council and they ultimately run/guide the council, whereas Mr.Green executes the daily administration of the Council. There are up to six Vice Presidents reporting to the President, me being one of them. My responsibility is overseeing Program as explained earlier. To clarify, I am one of the two "decision makers" Mr.Green referred to in your email.
Ben Maultsby is the District Executive (paid professional)for the L&C District. He ultimately reports to Rob Green though not directly. As Ben explained he has resigned from his position effective Nov.30 I believe.
As a side bar clarification, the BSA National Council sets general policy and serves as a resource to local area councils. They do not supply any direct support, financial or otherwise. Each Council is its own independent corporation and deals with local administration of the program.
As far as Gold Rush is concerned, perhaps Glen Stoner or someone closer to that program will chime back in with more details. He is the York District Commissioner and his wife served on the GR planning committee. |
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GStoner
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| 11/28/2007 5:19 PM |
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I will give you the quick response on Goldrush. There is much more info about the weekend on the York District Website. From the Palmetto Council website, click on York District on the left side. then select ACTIVITIES, then GOLDRUSH. The rules link probably has the details you are intersted in.
Basically it is a nice, laid-back Cub Scout FAmily camping experience. Some camp one night, some two. Some come only for the day. Packs/Families cook for themselves. The only real organized astivities are registration, the Goldrush Games Saturday afternoon, the Campfire Saturday night, and Worship Service on Sunday morning. Some Packs utilize Saturday morning to cover various beltloop requirements to their kids. It is their time.
Each Pack brings and runs a game in the afternoon. The Adults run the games. The kids visit and play the various games. The rules on gold mining and paying with gold to play the games is on the website. They run around all afternoon and have a great time all afternoon. The games are judged, and awards presented at the Campfire, which has been run by the York Chapter of Skyuka Lodge (Palmetto's Order of the Arrow Lodge) for the past 2 years. Like I said earlier, we had about 2400 kids/siblings/parents out on the Goldrush field in Saturday afternoon. It was impressive!
Anyway, take a look at the web site and give me a yell if you still have questions. It is a relatively easy event for a District to organize. You have to find a location, handle registration, and based on registration, layout where each of the Packs will camp. The Pack's handle the program with their games, and in our case, the OA handled the campfire. It is a nice event!
Glenn |
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William Wallace Tabbot
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| 11/28/2007 6:54 PM |
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Mr. Stoner, ... your Gold Rush program sounds FANTASTIC!!! ... Now this is exactly the kind thing I'm talking about! ... You wrapped your mind around a concept that people could get excited about! ... Way to go!!! ... I'm even excited about it! I think I will bring my son to the next Gold Rush you have. He will have a blast!!!
This is the kind of creativity that we need throughout the council! You are doing it the right way! I know I have said a lot about how other councils are doing a better job than we are in many areas. Well, I have to rank you right up there with them! ... You are getting more positive results just from that one program than than all of the rest of the council combined! ... You should be commended!!! I can't wait to tell my son about this! ... I said that I would bring him next time you have one ... I am going to see if we can bring his whole Den ... No, why stop there, why don't we just bring the whole Pack from Spartanburg! Tiger Cubs, Wolves, Bears, Webelos, ...everybody!!! This is an activity that is well worth the drive! Of course I don't have a problem with traveling for scouts anyway. I don't understand why that is a sticking point for so many people! They'll travel all over the state or nation for South Carolina or Clemson football, or a NASCAR Race, or Miss South Carolina Pageant ... But they won't step outside their own back door for their own son! ...
Anyway, I thought you may like to see what the Northeast Georgia Council, BSA is doing with their "Gold Rush" program. It is different than yours it just has the same name and it is not for Cub Scouts it is a Boy Scout activity. None the less, theirs is a great program in it's own right! Maybe it will give you some ideas that you can try in your Boy Scout program. ... Well, here it is:
nega-bsa.org 1.800.699.8806
Camp Rainey Mountain takes you back to the time of America’s first Gold Rush that took
place in the North Georgia Mountains. Experience the year 1828 when Gold changed
everything and shaped the lives of our people, our culture and our way of life.
Who can participate?
Participants must be 13 years old by June 1st, 2008 in order
to participate. Scouts must be First Class Rank or higher to
participate. This trip involves hiking into back country
wilderness and being away from camp for the entire week.
Adults may observe but may not participate.
What can you expect?
Rustic Cabins built in true pioneer fashion; Advanced
outdoor and Dutch oven cooking; tomahawk and knife
throwing; archery; black powder rifle; panning and
prospecting for gold; fishing; tanning; blacksmithing and
period metallurgy; period craft and art; Bluegrass and
Appalachian music-making; history and heritage;
storytelling
Advancement opportunities…
Pioneering, Cooking, Metalwork, Leatherwork, Woodwork,
Fishing, Rifle, American Heritage and more…
Be Prepared!
Gold Rush participants will hike to their program site on the
first night. Gear should be brought to camp in their own
BACKPACK (3,500-4,000 cubic inches recommended).
§ Sleeping bag, ground pad, Backpack
§ Rugged jeans, extra clothing, swim suit, rain gear
§ Flashlight extra batteries, pocket knife
§ Mess kit, spoon, plastic cup or mug
§ Normal camping gear and personals
Additional Cost:
$45 in addition to regular camper fees. See your Summer Camp
Program Guide or log onto www.nega-bsa.org for more information. |
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William Wallace Tabbot
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| 11/28/2007 8:58 PM |
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Mr. Stoner, ... Once again I love your Gold Rush program but I just noticed something that I have an issue with that goes back to my original arguement. Let's see if you can help me out? ...
I noticed that you can only come as a Pack. ... Your not going to accept a Den or an individual! ...
You see, you just underlined, bold printed, itallicised, exclamation pointed, highlighted, etc. ... what ever you want to call it ... The very problem I have with our council. ...
That is very simply, you all are telling me that my son (or anyone else's for that matter) can not participate in your District's activity within the Palmetto Council as an individual even though every other Council and and every District of those councils have already told me that they welcome him with open arms! ...
He's not even a member of their councils or their districts ... He is a member of the Palmetto Council, BSA! ...
YET ... he can participate in their activities without his pack ... but not those activities of his very own beloved Palmetto Council?! ...
Do you see how ridiculous that sounds ... and, I may add, looks here in writing? ...
PLEASE ... PLEASE ... PLEASE ... say it ain't so Mr. Stoner ....
And to think you were begining to help me to believe there was still hope for rationality and sanity within the Palmetto Council and it's Districts ....
Don't you see how silly all this is? ... Please tell me you will look into changing this ... Please tell me that my son is not going to have to spend all of his scouting years going out of council just to be a scout ...
What would you do with a Lone Scout? ... Turn him away? ... This goes against the very essense of what scouting is all about! ...
Scouting is supposed to be inclusive not exclusive ... No Scout Council in America would believe we are even having this conversation right now ...
It's nonsensicle! ... It makes no sense ...
YOU DO NOT NEED A COMMITTE TO FIGURE THIS ONE OUT ... Wait, I Know maybe this "Rush for Gold" ... is really ... FOOLS GOLD! ...
P.S.:
I am not angry, I just find this utterlly perplexing ... I'll tell an old Eagle Scout buddy of mine about this tommorrow and we will laugh so hard our sides will hurt ... All I can do is shake my head ... uh! ... uh! ... uh! (THIS HAS GOT TO BE A BAD JOKE!) |
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jspradley
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| 11/28/2007 9:40 PM |
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Mr. Tabbot,
As has been relayed to you, Palmetto Council owns two pieces of property. Camp Bob Hardin and the newly acquired Conley Clark property. As it has been mentioned, Camp Bob Hardin is geographically too far away from many within the council to be used as a day camp for Webelos. There is a week of Webelos camp every summer at CBH. The other property, Conley Clark is a great geographical location for this kind of thing in the future, but it has no infrastructure or buildings at this point. I am sure Palmetto Council would receive with open arms any individual who wishes to write a large enough check to get all the buildings and related infrastructure in place sooner rather than later.
As Mr. Stoner said, the Gold Rush is not too complicated to set up and run. I would make the suggestion to you that if you believe the largely succesful program in place to be a joke that you create your own. I am sure you could find other volunteers in your area that would be willing to help you. I also believe our Council, as badly flawed as you seem to think it is, would welcome any efforts to create more activities for our boys.
I, like all the others who have posted, am a volunteer. We all do our best to offer good Scouting programs for our boys in our own Troop or Pack, our District and Council.
Yours in Scouting,
Jody Spradley
Scoutmaster - Troop 31 Rock Hill |
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GStoner
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| 11/28/2007 9:42 PM |
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I agree the York Goldrush is a great event, but I cannot take ANY credit and did not mean to imply so. It is the hard work of the Goldrush Committee (which I am NOT a member of), which meet numerous times throughout the year to plan and execute the event.
The Goldrush Committee I guess is a sub-committee of District Cub Activities, which is a sub-committee of District Activities, which I think falls under District Programs (which Wayne addressed earlier). The folks on the Goldrush Committee just enjoy managing the event, and seem to have a good time doing so! They certainly do a great job. This is one event that the Activities Chairperson does not have to worry about execution or staffing.
A single Cub (and siblings) could attend with their parent(s) as the sole representative of a Pack if things worked out that way. I think we actually had at least 1 instance of that this year from the L&C District this year, although there are usually multiple Cubs from each Pack. The only requirement on this is that the Cubmaster sign off on the pre-registration paperwork. This is to prevent previous instances that have happened of 9 individual families from the same Pack trying to register separately from the same Pack. The Cubmaster being the funnel for the paperwork prevents this and allows the Committee to properly allocate space for the Pack for camping (which is quite tight).
As far as other Councils, we have not had any inquiries to my knowledge. I think that the other Districts in Palmetto Council have a similar event, so there is typically very little interest in participation from other Districts. This year was a bit different in that the L&C Goldrush did not happen, and it was decided that it would be OK for them to attend the York event.
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Bouldinw
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| 11/28/2007 10:25 PM |
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Mr.Tabbott,
I am confused. Please clarify, what district are you in? I previously thought and stated herein that you were from the L&C district. My assumption was based on your initial email to the L&C district executive, Ben Maultsby.
Mr.Stoner could respond more knowledgably but I believe the register by pack requirement is centered about simplifying the registration process. I believe that if only one person from a pack wanted to register that would be okay. The point I believe is to work it out within your pack instead of submitting 20-100 separate registrations. It also helps in terms of camping packs together and it just greatly simplifies the paperwork for us volunteers. I do not think they are at all trying to be exclusionary.
Now, York district has had to give priority to and sometimes restrict particpation in some activities due to the HIGH level of York participation, facility limitations, and/or volunteer leader limitations. However, sometimes they have been able to extend an invitation to other districts (e.g. Annual Beach Sweep). This decision is up to the specific event planning committee. Once again, if we could develop a functioning council activities committee, then a council wide event could be organized where participation could just be limited to the first so many sign-ups. This would be great for districts with weaker programs, but is no substitute for the district level events since more total people can participate at that level. We have a great Council Activities Chair just too few (1) committee members. |
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William Wallace Tabbot
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| 11/28/2007 10:34 PM |
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Jody Spradley,
Reguarding your response to my most recent observation about the Gold Rush ...
YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND READ IT AGAIN! ... SSS...LLL...OOO...WWW...EEE...RRR!!! (i.e. Slower)
YOU MISSED MY POINT ENTIRELY!!!
Even Mr. Stoner would agree with me on that! ... I wasn't critisizing the program ... I actually praised it! ... Ask Mr.Stoner!
I was meerely taking issue with one single detail! ...
READ IT AGAIN!!!
(Please I would ask that everyone remain mature and civil when replying. Be clear on your facts. Respond with logic not emotion).
P.S.:
Also, it is not the volunteers that I take issue with. In fact, second only to the children themselves, the volunteers are the best part of this council. No, the problem is with the overly inflated beurocracy which devours the children of this council like a cancer. ...
In much the same way that a church is not a building it is the people which make up the body of the church, likewise, The organizational and administrative part of the council is not the council, ... the children are the council! It would serve everyone well to remember that. |
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William Wallace Tabbot
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| 11/29/2007 1:08 AM |
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Sure, Mr. Bouldin, I'll be happy to clarify. I am in the Piedmont District. I live on Spartanburg's Eastside and my son is just begining Cub Scouts there as well. Actually my association with the Piedmont Council began in 1971 when I too, like my son, began as a cub scout. Then on of course into Webelos and ultimately Boy Scouts. Though a lot has changed since then. I don't even think they called it the Piedmont Council back then. There were no Council Shoulder Patches then and my first rank of Bobcat was actually a pin not a badge as it is now. Is anyone else out there old enough to remember these things? It really was not that long ago. Not much changed in scouting prior to 1971. Then in the 1980's until now it seems like things are constantly changing. When I started in scouting, if you were a boy it was just expected that all boys would be scouts and within your family you were expected to earn the rank of Eagle Scout. Not being an Eagle Scout just was not an option in just about every houshold. It would have been, at least in my family, shameful and somehow dishonouring the family. I came from a long line of Eagle Scouts. The expectations never seemed unusual. Just as you were expected to go to church every Sunday, have perfect attendance in school, brush your teeth every morning and every night, so too were you expected to be an Eagle Scout. It was all that really mattered to anyone as far as scouting itself was concerned. Everything else in between Bobcat and Eagle was merely clutter that got in the way. I never felt that way, I loved it all, but to your family and friends of the family, Eagle Scout was all that mattered. That was true also with the Order of the Arrow as well. When my older brother earned Order of the Arrow, I remember it well, I was very young it was at then Camp Palmetto (I always called it Camp Skyuka. I don't know why I thought that) anyway, I was scared to death because I thought they were all real Indians coming to get me. That's funny! I must have been about 3 or 4 years old then. I was terrified! I will never forget that! It was in the mid 1960's. So, anyway, all this rambling isn't answering your question.
I guess the reason for the confusion was due to the fact that, originally, I did not know who to send my e-mail to so I sent it to everyone I could find. A shotgun approach or blunderbust. I figured if I fired out into the dark I was bound to hit something. It may not be the most efficient means of communication but it certainly is the most effective! He (Maultsby) just happened to be the only one to reply, then he eventually forwarded it on to Mr Green.
Thank you for clarifying the point about if my son turned out to be the only one from his Pack, that he could participate. I would like to think there would be more interest from our pack because it may very well be the largest in the Palmetto Council I am sure his Den is. By their own addmission it really should be divided up into at least two Dens and quite possibly three. They plan to allow them to stay together for this year and divide them into more managable numbers for next year when they move up. They are all close friends from school and the boys wanted to stay together. My son is actually entering the Den a little late. He just went to his first meeting on November 18th. He has already completed all his requirements for his Bobcat and should receive it at the next pack meeting in January. So, he is excited about that. In fact, I meant to mention this in the first paragraph, but of all the awards I have received, the Bobcat was always my favorite. I am not sure why except possibly because it was my first. My son is very proud of himself and excited about his future in scouting. We are just trying to figure out what that will be based who is offering what in the way of outdoor activities that is. Everything else is fairly straight forward. I expect our den to be very active, I just don't think they have planned to venture out far beyond the city limits of Spartanburg. I will present and encourage more but I just don't know them all well enough to know how receptive to that they may be. But, we will see. That's why I am out here fishing for information because I do not think they realize all the different possibilities and resources that are available particularly for the Tiger Cubs. If you look far enough, there is more than one might would imagine. So, once they are aware of what is out there then they may very well be quite receptive to more adventurous outings. But, if not, we are still going to have him involved because he is excited about it and wants to do lots of activities. That is why it is so important that we know what he is allowed to do in council. I, by nature, am a very loyal person. If I sound as though I am criticle it is only because I care. I grew up in this council. I had the best in this council that scouting had to offer. Now, I do not see in this council what I remember when I was in scouts. I want my son to experience even better things in scouting than I did and I had the best. Therefore, I came into this with my expectations very high and my very first impression was that it looked and felt very sad compared to the way I remembered it. We want to do all his activities within council but if that is not possible, then we plan to go outside of council to get what he needs. I really do not want to do that but we will just have to see how this process all evolves.
I hope I clarified everything for you to your satisfaction.
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William Wallace Tabbot
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| 11/29/2007 2:53 AM |
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CORRECTION:
I do not know why but I kept refering above to the council as the Piedmont Council. ... I meant to say ... PALMETTO COUNCIL ...
Sorry about that ... Piedmont District but Palmetto Council ... Please note the correction.
Thanks! |
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Bouldinw
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| 11/29/2007 9:58 AM |
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William (I presume that is the name you go by),
Thanks for your clarificatication and walk down memory lane. My experience as a youth was in the 70's in Occoneechee Council. Started as adult in the Blue Ridge Council with my son in Cubs. Been in the Palmetto Council since 1990. Vigil member of skyuka Lodge. Never made it to Eagle, but have been trying to make up for it ever since.
Sometimes things just aren't the same in reality as we fondly remember them from our childhood. Then sometimes they really are different. I expect we have some of both here. I as well as many others know there are many improvements that stand to be made. As it stands though we have many good programs in place and have made tons of improvements since our council passed through merger discussions a little over three years ago. Morale is MUCH higher in the volunteer ranks, as are the financial contributions which are a necessary evil. On the West side of the council you are also struggling with district realignment and organization, trying to establish that district leadership. I believe in the long run it will make for a stronger council, but it is in the rebuilding phase now.
I asure you that we at the "council level" as well as at the local district levels are looking to make additional improvements where possible. Afterall, that's what we are in business for.
As for your future, I would highly recommend you taking advantage of any adult leader training opportunities you can and attend your district Roundtable meetings each mponth. This will help tune you in to current leader expectations, stay informed, and develop a network of leader contacts. You are welcome at any training offered anywhere within the council or even outside of the council (generally). I am trying to get all training dates published in a common area to make this easier.
First, if not already done, complete Cub Leader Specific Training. Next I highly recommend participating in Wood Badge, the advanced leadership training. Most folks that take it say "I wish I had done it sooner." Palmetto and Blue Ridge offer a joint course each year in the Fall, with the next one being offered at Camp Old Indian. I do not think exact dates are yet set.
Good luck to you and your son in your new scouting experience! |
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poopsidoo
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| 01/11/2008 10:32 AM |
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Mr Tabbot,
Allow me to introduce myself. I am currently serving as the Boy Scout Roundtable Commissioner of the Piedmont District. Until last week I had been the District Commissioner of Piedmont District, but my workload had dictated a litte less involvement. These are both volunteer positions.
I have just registered on this website (I am a late comer). I am very excited about this post and your interest. You are EXACTLY the type of person we need in leadership in this district. Let me add a few comments.
For various reasons centering on better serving more youth, the Spartanburg County Dist separated into 3 districts a couple of years ago. Two out of three of the districts are have very healthly growth, but we continue to have problems here in the Piedmont Dist. (Spartanburg School Districts 3 and 7, and all of Union County)
From a District level, what we mean by a healthy district is that there are sufficient volunteer to accomplish the District's goals of providing safe and exciting programs for the Districts units. For what ever reason (various have been suggested), we have been unable to staff our committee.
The District is made up of one paid professional--District Executive (we have a new one, Mr Ron Henderson. rhenders@bsamail.org 864-585-4391. He is brand new, and feeling his way, but what an incredible man with a great passion for reaching the youth of the District)
He works with a District Commissioner who is a volunteer (again--I had to step down, so currently we don't have one) and the District Committee Chairman (a volunteer--we are currently without one). The three of them put together a committee of 40--60 volunteers in the District to accomplish things such as keeping up with finances, maintaining and increasing youth membership and units, encouraging civic service, promoting and recognizing advancement, promoting and maintaining camp property, training adult volunteers. These are the people who sit down monthly and talk about what we need to do, what we can do, how to do it, who will do it, etc. Volunteers such as you. And unless you are talking about an event at just the unit level, this is where it begins and where it comes from. It is an exciting place to serve.
We currently have about 3 people on this committee, with no chairman. And a brand new District Executive.
One of the reason I believe you have gotten such a run around is because you are here in the Piedmont District, and the Piedmont District is the group of volunteers that are charged with serving you, your boy, and your unit. As we are so disorganized, no one in the coucil has really been in the position to address your issue. The beautiful thing about the BSA is that, although we have great professionals such as Rob Green, Lamar Perry, and Ron Henderson, they are not paid to run or even plan the programs. That is entirely up to volunteers such as you and me. The professional sort of "steers the ship" as the volunteers make it happen.
Now , here is where the rubber meets the road. I began by saying I was really excited reading your post. That is because you are the type of adult we need. Piedmont District is crying out for your involvement. YOU CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN. As we tell adult leaders in all of our training---the units belong to the boys and the sponsoring organizations. Just as a Scoutmaster should not be telling his boys they CANT do a particular activity, we will not tell someone they cant do something they dream up, as long as it is not a prohibited activity in the Guide to Safe Scouting.
I would suggest Mr Tabbot you ask to serve on your boy's unit's Pack Committee, or call Mr Henderson and ask to be on the Piedmont District Committee. We are just beginning to reorganize and WOULD WELCOME YOU. You are also welcome to call me. Bill Heacox 474-0029. Thanks you for your passion and great sense of caring for the youth we serve. |
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Brenda Wright
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| 02/06/2008 1:30 AM |
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I would like to introduce myself. I am the District Activities Chair for York. I am just now jumping into all of this and I have a burning question that I still have not seen answered yet....what district/council are you currently in? It sounds like you are ready to help make some great cub activity weekends for scouts in Palmetto Council.
Like several others have mentioned, I too have had other experiences from previous councils before moving to the area. In York, for example, I am gradually building and strengthening the activities we offer in our district. I have had the cub and pal on my list for quite a while. However, it takes volunteer staff with a burning desire like yours to build a program like Gold Rush into the door buster that it is. We are growing our events 1 at a time to keep the quality. The cub-and-pal is next on my list.
As for our current York events:
The Gold Rush is held every October at Chester State Park for York District cubs and their families. They register Friday night. Saturday is spent fishing, hiking, and playing games with the gold that they get from the "gold fields". The evening is capped off with a campfire. Everyone goes home Sunday. Great family camping fun.
As of last year, we have added the Wateree. Full weekend family camping for the cubs. This is a joint event with a parallel program for cubs and boyscouts. The cubs compete in catamaran races, this year will compete with water rockets, and is complemented with fishing and swimming. The boyscouts in the meantime are earning the majority of the canoeing MB, racing in their cardboard boats, and competing in canoe races.
My personal opinion is not so much where the program is; but what the program is. York cubs have potentially 3 camping opportunities every year - Wateree, Gold Rush, and sometimes Scout Show. I wish they had the chance to camp on the last night of summer Day camp as my son did while growing up in another council. I would like for the cubs to have a cub-and-pal weekend every year to add more learning of scout skills. We still don't have a winter event for the cubs. Then, we look at the big picture and I see that we are not regularly offering a council cub event. (The winter event and Council event are not necessarily camping events.) So, we have a lot of growing to do.
I am very willing to work with you on an event for the cubs. We could try for a Saturday/Sunday Council event if you like. And we can try using CBH. (Just to let you know, if this is going to happen in 2008-2009, it needs to be decided before the Council April calendar meeting so we can get the dates set.) Think it over and let me know if this sounds interesting.
I really appreciate your enthusiasm.
Yours in Scouting,
Brenda Wright
York District Activities & Civic Service |
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Sharon
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| 02/12/2008 8:16 PM |
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Mr Tabbott,
My name is Sharon Sutton and I am the cub scout day camp director for the Piedmont District. What position on the day camp staff would you like? I have arts and crafts and program director filled but there are many other positions open. I will give you first crack at any one you want.
We are sleeping over Friday night at our campsite which is a Optimist Acres camp in Pauline. Call me 515-9732 and let me know what position I can put you down for. Day Camp will be held June16-20. |
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nwasness
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| 02/12/2008 8:37 PM |
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Cub Scout Day Camp Help Needed for Pinckney District
(North Spartanburg County & All Cherokee County)
I would like to reach out to all parents and leaders of the Pinckney District for help with my Cub Scout Day Camp.
I will need the following:
Den Leaders (2 adults per den) approx. 16 per day
Need first aid technician (nurse, doctor, EMS technician volunteer or CERT member)
Program director
Art & Crafts
Anyone interested in helping can contact me at:
H: 814-3831
C: 316-0215
E: nwasness@bellsouth.net
Thank you
Nancy Wasness
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William Wallace Tabbot
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| 02/16/2008 3:44 PM |
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Cherokee Area Council, BSA
CERTIFIED BALOO PACK CAMPING
Yes, Cub Scouts can go camping!
When a boy and his family join Cub Scouting in your Cub Scout Pack, they join an organization that values the fun and excitement of experiencing the
outdoors. Each Cub Scout Pack is encouraged to provide its youth members with enriching, positive outdoor activities. In addition to Cub Scout Day
Camp, Cub Scout Twilight Camp, Cub Resident Camp and Webelos Camp as part of the Pack's annual plan, Pack Family Camping or Pack overnighters can be an exciting addition to your Pack's program.
Pack overnighters are Pack-organized overnight camping activities involving more than one family from your Pack, with the program focused on age appropriate Cub Scout activities and conducted at a Council Approved Pack Camping Location. If nonmembers (siblings) participate, the program must be structured to accommodate them. This type of activity may well be the first time a Cub Scout and his family experience the fun and excitement of camping in the outdoors. Careful program planning and adherence to the BSA's health and safety policies found in the Guide to Safe Scouting and Youth Protection Guidelines will assure a positive experience for your Pack, the Cub Scout and his family.
To begin with, each youth member must be under the supervision of a parent or guardian and, in all cases, each youth participant is responsible to a specific adult who is on the overnighter. Adults giving leadership to a Pack overnighter must complete Basic Adult Leader Outdoor Orientation (BALOO
Training), and be present on the campout as well. BALOO trains participants to properly understand the importance of program intent, Youth Protection guidelines, health and safety, site selection, age appropriate activities, and sufficient adult participation. BSA Safe Swim Defense may be required. A Local Tour Permit must be filed with the Cherokee Area Council two weeks before the Pack's overnight camping trip, and must be for one of the Council Approved Pack Camping Locations. If your desired location for your Pack's overnight camping experience is not on the list of approved sites, you may request that your site be inspected by the Cherokee Area Council's Cub Camping Committee by submitting the location to Stuart Williams. Please allow four weeks notice. |
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poopsidoo
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| 02/16/2008 8:24 PM |
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Mr Tabbot,
YOu are invited to attend the Piedmont District Committe Meeting Thursday night 2/28/08 at 6PM at the council office on N Church St. We would love to have you.
Bill Heacox |
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William Wallace Tabbot
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| 02/18/2008 11:19 PM |
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Where will the Piedmont District Cub Scout Day Camp be held this year? ... I know that the dates are June 16 - 20, but I don't know the times or the location. ...
Could you or anyone else help me with this?
Also, ... When will the flyers, information, registration forms, etc. be available? ... I would like to receive some of these once they are ready. I would really appreciate that. ... What will the theme be for this years day camp? ...
Finally, ... Will the boys have the opportunity to earn their BB Shooting & Archery Belt Loops? Because camp is the only place they are allowed to earn them. ... I know that usually there is Archery and BB's available to participate in but will they be earning their belt loops (not the pins, ... I know that is more involved than earning the belt loops)?
Any information you or anyone else could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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William Wallace Tabbot
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| 02/18/2008 11:27 PM |
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Where will the Piedmont District Cub Scout Day Camp be held this year? ... I know that the dates are June 16 - 20, but I don't know the times or the location. ...
Could you or anyone else help me with this?
Also, ... When will the flyers, information, registration forms, etc. be available? ... I would like to receive some of these once they are ready. I would really appreciate that. ... What will the theme be for this years day camp? ...
Finally, ... Will the boys have the opportunity to earn their BB Shooting & Archery Belt Loops? Because camp is the only place they are allowed to earn them. ... I know that usually there is Archery and BB's available to participate in but will they be earning their belt loops (not the pins, ... I know that is more involved than earning the belt loops)?
Any information you or anyone else could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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RE: Cub Scout Camp Question, etc. ... by Sharon
Mr Tabbott,
My name is Sharon Sutton and I am the cub scout day camp director for the Piedmont District. What position on the day camp staff would you like? I have arts and crafts and program director filled but there are many other positions open. I will give you first crack at any one you want.
We are sleeping over Friday night at our campsite which is a Optimist Acres camp in Pauline. Call me 515-9732 and let me know what position I can put you down for. Day Camp will be held June16-20.
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Palmetto Council
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William Wallace Tabbot
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| 02/27/2008 11:25 AM |
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I have a big urgent question ... I noticed on the website that there will be BALOO training on March 8th. ... Where will the BALOO training be, at what times, and what do we need to do to sign up? ...
Also, when will the Youth Protection training, Safe Swim Defense, Safety Afloat and Safe Climb be offered again and where?
I appreciate all your help.
Thanks! |
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